August 21, 2010 - 9:09pm
August 21, 2010 - 9:58pm
August 22, 2010 - 12:39am
A backup?
Hey Robert, sorry for the difficulties your church is going through. I once met a pastor who, when he sensed a split, hopped on board and promoted it, advised the leaders, and even supported the new group financially. The split morphed into what felt like more of a church plant. "What many people consider division, I see as multiplication," he told me.
Unfortunately, not everyone is so supportive. And it's quite possible whoever is denying your request is simply following the instruction or advice of someone else. A good first step is to ask if you could drop off a thumb drive and ask they supply you with a backup. You'd have access to the files you need and their site would in no way be in jeopardy.
-NP
August 22, 2010 - 8:27pm
tough one
i have a couple of thoughts and approaches.
the nice way:
Talk to someone "at the top" and convey all that you need and are looking for. Maybe even do what NonProfit said with the thumbdrive or ask that the new web "guru" be present when you get the files you need. that way, you don't ever need the super secret login and they know what you took.
the ugly way:
technically/legally, are the sermons the property of the church body or the pastor? if it is that critical that you get the files that are the pastor's property, then you have every legal right to get it, although not necessarily by you logging in. if the nice way doesn't work, i would probably move towards this approach next. of course, i am unbearably bull-headed.
God Bless
So, I was recently involved in a church where we sort of split.
Half the congregation joined with another church and half stayed at their current location. I was part of the half that went to the other church.
Anyways, I had been the website volunteer manager for 3 or so years before the split. When I left, I hadn't given any of the login info to anyone who stayed at the current location, but I told them to get in touch with me and I'd be more than willing to show them how things were set-up.
Long story short, no one contacted me before they started changing things, and instead, they changed the login info for the web host/web panel without giving me a chance to archive the old files (sermons, etc.). I had set-up a time to meet with someone, but had something came up, and they got really impatient because I had to cancel, which led them the next day to change all the login info before I had the chance to do much of anything.
The person doing it now isn't really web savy, and is using Google Sites to run things. I kindly asked if I could have the login info so I could archive the old files for myself, but they said no.
This is probably more me venting than anything, but it sort of made me upset that they would say no to that request. Am I wrong for being upset? Well, I know it's wrong to be angry, but I guess it just sort of rubs me the wrong way. Am I wrong for asking them for the login info they changed so I can archive the files myself?
I still want the files, but they are really reluctant for whatever reason to compromise with me. How might you have handle getting the files?